One of the things about being a creative in business is that as your business grows, so does your relationship to the work. Growing a team can mean that you might not be opening the files as open often as you once were. Today on the show I have Kathleen Shannon, a creative powerhouse, talking about how she’s grown, established good teams, hired other creatives, and managed creatives. 

On the show we talk about: 

  • Managing your own creativity vs. managing creatives 
  • What it’s like to be a creative leader 
  • Are hobbies a real thing? 
  • Art vs. creativity and how labels can help us or hurt us 


About Kathleen: 

Kathleen Shannon is the co-host of the Being Boss Podcast for Creative Entrepreneurs and the co-founder of Braid Creative where she helps creatives and organizations blend their personality into the work they want to be known for. Kathleen currently lives in Oklahoma City with her husband and their three-year-old son Fox.  

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About Nufonia Must Fall: 

Equal parts cinema, theatre, and musical concert. Watch an amazing team of puppeteers bring the characters of Kid Koala’s graphic novel Nufonia Must Fall to life in miniature sets built to recreate each scene from the book. Under the direction of renowned production designer KK Barrett (Her, Where the Wild Things Are, Adaptation, Being John Malkovich), the performance is cinematically lit, filmed, and projected on a large screen. Kid Koala, accompanied by the Afiara String Quartet, performs his original score on piano and turntable. All of these components come together in real time.